



Joi Murugavell founder of Joi Design, is a designer by trade. She's passionate about 'cutting the crap' and helping her clients make money from good, solid Brands.
Simon Young is a cofounder of iJump, a social media consultancy that helps organisations conduct real, human conversations with their communities through Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and other forms of social media.
James Mawhinney is the Business Development Manager at PositionMEonline, providing high quality internet marketing strategies to a range of clients including Merrill Lynch, Downer EDI, Hawaiian Group, Citect PLC, and Quest Serviced Apartments.

Three weeks ago I received the inevitable but deeply sad news that my nana (she was 94) was very ill and had about 3 days. So off to New Zealand we went to say goodbye to an amazing human being. My partner and I used to spend some nights at her place with takeaways soaking up her gems (at times watching bad TV but mostly poking fun at her whisky drinking antics). She would always say "you young people should be out having fun instead of hanging around an old lady" and we would always reply "you're more interesting than any of our friends" and we meant it.
No matter how busy you are, work is just work when life slams you in the face. The 3-5 days I planned to spend In Auckland turned into 3 weeks, she always had a very strong will, so we weren't surprised. So anyway, when I said work is just work when life turns up? that may be true when you're talking about 3-4 days, 3 weeks is a whole different story:)
I worked on my laptop, at times by her hospital bed (not strangely that inspired some good designing) but work was building up, which I am still catching up on now. I had to start telling a few clients what was happening.
It was natural and easy to tell some clients but others not so much. We all have a variety of clients, some are formal, very work focussed, others are more relaxed, everyone does their business to business communication differently. When you're faced with telling a client something highly personal, it isn't just awkward for you but for them too (at times even more so).
No one really knows what to say "sorry Joi, now about my website, it has to go live as the Ad campaign I paid a lot of money for kicks in next week". You can see how that puts someone in a very awkward position, which made me asses the situation. Clients who absolutely needed a deadline met, had no idea I was working from a hospital and their deadlines were met. Clients who could delay things, were told the truth so they understood I wasn't being slack.
Business to Business grieving is tricky, be honest but only when you have to, as being honest isn't always the best thing when you can help it.
Comments
Posted: 16-Apr-2010 09:24 AM | Miriam |
Well done Joi, that was a very strong and excellent post. Great assessment. Kudos!Posted: 17-Apr-2010 02:17 PM | alan jones |
I'm sorry to hear about your nana Joi, I hope she passed away in peace and free of pain, and I hope she got to reconcile everything with everyone she loved, especially you.This kind of thing shouldn't be that hard to say in a work setting but I've had a lot of practice.
Since my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer last December I've had to make similar decisions as to what to tell clients and when. It's certainly uncomfortable for everyone involved — I never know how much to disclose, and clients never know how to respond. Some clients have known my wife socially for years, some wouldn't even know I was married.
And it's going to take the best part of 2010 before my wife's treatment is complete and I can get back to something approaching a normal work/life balance. So there's a lot of people to communicate with.
So I help them. I've gotten better at knowing what I'd like them to say and what my wife would like to hear from them. I suggest a response that they might like to make to my wife.
She has a blog at pilatesscene.com and is active on Facebook, so I say, "if you'd like to express your regret about it, go ahead and leave a comment on her blog or her Facebook page, I know it would mean a lot to her. You might want to say something about although you've never met her, you've been working with her husband and you're sorry to hear about her cancer. You hope the time ahead passes quickly and without too much pain. If there's anything you can do, she should just ask."
That's all she needs but it's ridiculously hard to know how to say it, so I'm doing them a favour by being so direct, and any uncomfortableness around that is much easier to bear than the discomfort of not knowing what to say.
The only good thing about having to talk about this with clients is it tends to strip away the 'make-believe' deadlines that clients often slip to you to try and get a hurry on. If there's anything make-believe about when they really need something done, it disappears as soon as you tell them your bad news. Suddenly, difficult clients can be a pleasure to work with.
By the way, my wife's going to have a crappy year but she's going to be free of cancer by the end of the year. We're both very grateful she has that outcome to look forward to, things could be a whole lot worse.
Thanks for a great post Joi.
Posted: 28-May-2010 07:06 AM | Ray Sanford |
I know well the feeling of getting slammed by the unexpected (and even expected) loss of a loved one. Both of my parents passed away over the past couple of years. Even though they'd made all the arrangements it was still a huge time and emotional suck.Posted: 13-Jul-2010 12:45 PM | Bambi |
Hey Alan. Ditto. Your 2010 was our 2009. And we didn't tell our clients because it seemed so personal and also didn't want them to freak out and pull business. I also found it really motivating to be working on my laptop while receiving chemo - and the client who was pushing a deadline or apologising that they couldn't make one of my deadlines because they had been off with the flu, had no idea. I felt like Super-Women - that I at least had something that I was in control of (work) that I could still do - while the rest of the world was pretty much out of control. All the best with the journey this year. I look forward to seeing you and your wife when we next march on the MCG for www.bcna.org.auPosted: 01-Sep-2012 10:03 PM | Dennys |
Anyway, to the article to which this thaerd is about, I can see why the author changed occupations. How can one restrain themselves from jumping up and choking such a person to death?And knowing intimately these people exist and are walking about daily,how do you get it out of your mind, knowing their prime targets are the ones least able to defend themselves?
Posted: 01-Sep-2012 10:04 PM | Wawan |
@hacky maximus .? CHIP-arule!Da. OPC rulz. Ideea e ca, PE TINE, ca si clneit, te doare fix in p**a ca pretul era gresit. Tu ai facut comanda tocmai pentru ca pretul era excelent. eventual, pierderea pe care o vor avea, sa o scoata de la aia care-s vinovati!? Scurt pe 6 (era scurt pe 2 , dar mi se parea monoton sa folosesc acelasi numar )
Posted: 01-Sep-2012 10:06 PM | Mohammed |
I had a colleague like that. She hates stutends in general, worse, her own stutends, and makes it very clear in every class. She caused so many problems (complaints to the Dean, etc.) that the department quietly cut her teaching hours and limited her toa seminar or two every year.
Posted: 04-Oct-2012 10:44 AM | Jan |
I don't like that they are talking and the man's mariarge is breaking up or broken up. It concerns me is that they connected from a website. Why the steps to search and find and reconnect. curious, how close were they before, how did they feel about each other?I think that she was aware you would be concerned and so told you it was for doct appts, regardless of if there is something going on or not. I do believe it definitely could become something, there is always a potential, always. You don't want stable for a relationship, you want emotionally and mentally in sync ideally.know that you, yourself are still an individual. you may be in a mariarge and share things, but you are still whoever you are. and she is still whoever she is. her past shaped her but doesn't define her. your past shaped you but doesn't define you. and you are together now, and for those many years. there's still a part of her that wasn't with you and a part of you that wasn't with her. appreciate the difference, but know that you can trust her, but you can't trust her completely, you are again completely different individuals.I think you two need to focus or refocus on your relationship together, whether something is going on or not. and listen to what she is saying. Don't let her know, just listen to how she view you and her, listen to her tone. are there changes to the relationship or how she is acting that would cause reason to be concerned? you have had many years together, sometimes when you feel this way, just work the strengthen the bond and/or re-appreciate each other.Posted: 04-Oct-2012 10:44 AM | Happy |
Busybee:My condolences to this vitcim and her family. I cannot begin to imagine the pain you must endure everyday. Thanks to you though, women can feel confident in knowing that they are not the only ones who are vitcims of the judicial system, and that we all need to do what we can to make a change.Heather's efforts should be applauded. To endure what she has, and yet have the bravery and tenacity to try and make a change in our judicial system's bail reform is unparalleled. People cannot begin to understand the fear, pain and anger she must of felt not only because of her estranged boyfriend, but also with the judicial system, and how they let her down.Had the judicial system not failed her, she would not have been put in such a precarious situation. What part do judges not understand? If an offender has breached the original restraining order, obviously they do not fear the repercussions of the law,and are defiant. Clearly in this case there were no repercussions, and as a result, he was granted bail contrary to the fact there was a breach. So who gets vitcimized again and again? The vitcims. Unfortunately, people do not choose to be vitcims, but having a judicial system that backs vitcims into a corner at every turn just vitcimizes them again and again.The unnecessary violence needs to end. The cowardly offenders that perpetrate the violence on defenseless women and children need to own up to their actions, and the justice system needs to punish them accordingly without kid gloves. After all, the vitcims are not being treated that way, so why should the offenders?Posted: 04-Oct-2012 10:45 AM | Mochammad |
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Lisa, I cannot belveie how much the kids have grown! They are all so beautiful. We send our love and would love to see you guys soon.Frank, Anna, & MilesPosted: 04-Oct-2012 05:24 PM | Latif |
Okay the point of this is that we make excuses as to why we slhuod not workout.After spending a good 10-12 hours in the car traveling to Ohio and Indiana and back to KY when I DID get home, I was exhausted.TOO many women wait until later in the day to do their workouts what happens every time we get home???The exhaustion hits, there are too many other things to do so we put it off to another day.All I am trying to do here is show you in a fun way that working out IS possible to fit into your schedule as well as to STICK to a workout plan no matter what the summer holds for you.Thanks to those of you who understand what I am trying to do.Posted: 04-Oct-2012 05:24 PM | Qodell |
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You cudlon't pay me to ignore these posts!Posted: 04-Oct-2012 09:08 PM | Helena |
This was great Holly! And yes, the point is to just get up and DO IT! On busy days I do 4-5 min tabatas. I get great mini wrktouos at the park while my kids play. Some times I break down my exercises throughout the day doing 15 squats here some push-ups there, at the end of the day it sums up to 70-80 squats and 30-40 push-ups. I've done squats in the elevator as I carry groceries or laundry baskets. I use a lot the stairs. I'm 42 and mother of 2 great kids, and I'm in better shape now than I was before getting pregnant.Thanks Holly for all the great advice and support.Posted: 04-Oct-2012 09:09 PM | Govinda |
Emily Campbell - All of the photo's are great and capture the spicael day. My top three favorite include: shot of your eye lashes/dress, the two shots (one on Haley's face and the other on Adam's) when seeing each other for the first time before the ceremony, and the shot of the grandparents. The first time seeing eachother is precious and the grandparent's shot is priceless!!!! Congrats again Mr. and Mrs. Roebuck!!!!Posted: 04-Oct-2012 09:10 PM | Storm |
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